Remember watching Seven Brides for Seven Brothers with a side of cheesy pretzel bites as a teenager? OK, maybe that's too specific, but please! Relive some memories with us as we dive into the classic musical chosen by Maddie! We share our personal experiences with the movie, from the time we first watched it as teens to Jen's hilarious first impressions.
We'll take you on a trip down memory lane as we discuss the movie's production budget, box office, and storyline. And of course, we'll debate which of the six brothers is our ultimate favorite. But we don't stop there – we'll also dig into the movie's underlying themes around romance and marriage, including some of the more questionable attitudes portrayed.
Join us as we tackle Adam's objectifying attitude toward women, his leathery fringe outfit, and how the movie reflects his chauvinistic views. We'll also chat about the romantic cliches portrayed in the movie, such as Millie falling for someone based on their cooking ability, and her tragic backstory. Plus, we'll share some of our favorite humorous moments sprinkled throughout the film. So come along for a fun-filled exploration of the frontier and its peculiar take on love and relationships!
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Remember watching Seven Brides for Seven Brothers with a side of cheesy pretzel bites as a teenager? OK, maybe that's too specific, but please! Relive some memories with us as we dive into the classic musical chosen by Maddie! We share our personal experiences with the movie, from the time we first watched it as teens to Jen's hilarious first impressions.
We'll take you on a trip down memory lane as we discuss the movie's production budget, box office, and storyline. And of course, we'll debate which of the six brothers is our ultimate favorite. But we don't stop there – we'll also dig into the movie's underlying themes around romance and marriage, including some of the more questionable attitudes portrayed.
Join us as we tackle Adam's objectifying attitude toward women, his leathery fringe outfit, and how the movie reflects his chauvinistic views. We'll also chat about the romantic cliches portrayed in the movie, such as Millie falling for someone based on their cooking ability, and her tragic backstory. Plus, we'll share some of our favorite humorous moments sprinkled throughout the film. So come along for a fun-filled exploration of the frontier and its peculiar take on love and relationships!
Have some feedback for us? Email us at shockedandapplaud@gmail.com or visit these fine Web establishments:
But her form is particularly bad and he's like Mwah, mwah, mwah. And yeah, yeah, yeah, Huppa-da, huppa-da, huppa-da, Woo-ga.
Lydia:Welcome plotters, My name is Naomi McQuade, i'm Lydia Malcolm And.
Jen:I'm Jen McQuade And you know what movie we're doing because you clicked on the thing. You, wonderful, wonderful person.
Naomi:Thank you so much for joining us.
Lydia:Seven Brads for Seven Brothers, which is a very fast and furious title.
Jen:Yeah, it seems like the S's should be replaced with 7's or something.
Naomi:Yes, There's a movie called Seven, right, with the numbers replaced Yeah.
Lydia:Yeah, so just like we need to take that movie and mush it into this one.
Jen:And the word for should be the number four.
Naomi:Yeah, Oh man.
Jen:Yeah So.
Lydia:This was Maddie's pick And I don't hate it. I mean, this is a movie that I came to because of the King County Library system Yeah, because this was back when I had a library card And I'm like I'm looking for anything that's going to be fun And I was like seven brides for seven brothers. I guess this is going to be fun. And was it Like I'm trying to remember how I felt about this movie as a teenager and have a note Oh, there we go. Yeah, like in the third act, i have a note that talks about like this movie explains some things.
Naomi:Really Well. I came to this movie by way of Madeline 25, 20,. Like how long ago was 1998?
Lydia:That would have been like 25 years.
Naomi:Yeah. So when Sean from Sean Fax went away to college, I started hanging out with Madeline a lot And she's like, oh, she had all these VHSs, because that's how old I am, applauders. And she was like, oh, I got a movie you've got to see. So, in her room, laying on her bed eating cheesy pretzel bites, which are one of my favorite vices, we just watched it And unironically loved it. It was so long ago And I've changed so much, So watching it this time was like how was I taking this in as a teenager? I don't, I honestly do not know.
Jen:So what about me?
Lydia:Yeah, Jen, what about you?
Jen:Today was how many days old I was when I first watched this movie.
Naomi:Applauders. We forgot the SD card at our place coming over to record with Lydia And so we just started the movie. Jen's like I'm going to miss like 20 minutes, but I don't want to make it the recording take too long And Lydia and I were both like no, no, no, no, we'll wait. Just watching you taking the movie for the first time was a delight.
Jen:Yes, I probably. I have some small remembrance of this, probably being on the background at my grandmother's house because she watches musicals all the time, so but honestly, i, from like, until up to possibly when Madeline announced that this was the movie we were going to see, i thought this was a period piece like in some sort of King and I situation or like more like a British period piece. Oh, it's not that idea of the plot And I thought it was like Mr Darcy and his friends, gentlemen, friends.
Naomi:I have to go and find some information. Yeah, nope.
Jen:Nope.
Naomi:Did you? we've never done a period piece.
Jen:Once I saw. When I saw the photos that Madeline sent us so we could guess what movie it was, i thought it was probably the music man or something.
Lydia:Hello Dolly.
Jen:Yeah, guys and dolls. No no, it is not one of those things.
Naomi:Oh, applauters, we are joined again today by Wonder Boy, who may be clink, clunking around, so if you hear a thud or we stop and talk about turtles. that's why.
Jen:And we may just kind of let go and be a little bit more relaxed with this episode anyway, because we are Applauters, we are going on a hiatus for most likely six months. So if you are an official Applauter, paying us whatever amount you're paying pretty sure, lydia, you are the top up plotter, for sure most of us just put in the $1, but we will be Unpublishing our page, which our patreon page which will should freeze your Subscription if it doesn't. This is this is the month that you would want to go in and make sure that you know Your subscription is paused. So please do maintain or manage your patreon account and make sure that you are All set up for next month, even though we're gonna do everything in on on our side that we can to make sure that you're not Giving us money for content. We are not producing Any other things we want to mention on the the hiatus side.
Lydia:Thank you for letting us take time off. Life just kind of gets a little bit crazy. So, and you know we, we will probably see you fully in next year and that's the end of the episode.
Naomi:So we'll see you in like six months. Get a tan.
Jen:Yeah, you got some sobbing women over here that we have to Take a break, but I think it's it's. I think we all started this podcast with the With the agreement that if, for any reason, something came up and we weren't able to just continue if it was like a Just even a personal reason, one of us couldn't do it anymore that we would have no hard feelings, that we would just This is for fun anyway, and we just move on and keep you informed. So We have talked about how we came to this movie.
Naomi:Mm-hmm. So you know what I'm in the mood for what are you in the mood for? push. Go ahead, push my buttons.
Lydia:So satisfying to hear your own voice like that.
Jen:Well, most actually, i think all of this is Production or Information about some of the actors. So I'm probably just gonna like cut this in half and we will do half the Sean facts right now And then we'll just finish up At the end of the episode with some Sean facts as well. Oh, seven brides for seven brothers, 1954. What are our guesses on the budget of this movie?
Lydia:1954, this was during the, the, the heyday of musicals back then. So I can't help but think that maybe was given a bigger budget and 1954 I want to say that may have even been like smack dab in the middle, so it wasn't like, it wasn't like hello dolly, where it like cost like An extreme amount of money and it didn't make nearly as much back. So I'm gonna go ahead and say that the we're just talking budget right now, right.
Jen:Right, okay and probably yeah, money for the time.
Lydia:And in money for the time. So I, so we're not adjusting for inflation, so I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna say 30 million. It's a high amount for 1954, but But like they, i mean this was, this was during the heyday of musicals, so that's why I think they threw a lot of money at it.
Naomi:I, i'm gonna low-ball it. I feel like if it costs three million I'd be surprised. I I think that it probably is lower than that.
Jen:Dang, you're so good at this that is not the case.
Naomi:See any of our previous.
Jen:Two and a half million is the budget. Some of this actually was siphoned off to the production of Brigadune, which the studio felt would be the better film was it? We didn't tell you I haven't seen Brigadune either.
Lydia:We'd have to, we'd have to do Brigadune in order to get those numbers man.
Jen:So That was budget. What about box office, lydia?
Lydia:30 million. I think it probably 15 million nine, point four million, so it it made its money back three times for sure. That's great Okay.
Jen:Yeah, alright, so Seven brides for seven brothers, based on the short story the sobbing women by Steven Vincent Benet, which was based in turn on the ancient Roman legend of the rape of the Sobbing women. I want to. I want to say Sabin, and I think it's because of Power Rangers.
Lydia:Just changes everything about power.
Naomi:Wait I.
Jen:Want to say Sabin instead of Sabin that's what it was The Saban women but is the is the whole premise is that it's the sobbing women like the, the adaptation of the rape of the Saban women from Roman.
Naomi:Yeah, but they use both words in the musical. Yeah they go back and forth between sobbing and Saban.
Jen:I don't understand why. I Mean if it's one thing, don't make a whole song about how it, how it's mispronounced. But okay, we don't need to insert my opinions on.
Naomi:The whole show is us inserting our opinions on all the things save it for the podcast.
Lydia:Oh wait.
Jen:The wood shopping scene. Oh, this is a. This is probably the one scene A comment here, but I'll. We can bring it up later, but the wood chopping scene in lonesome pole cat was filmed in a single take. Oh wow, and I will bring in the facts about the brothers Here, and then I'll bring in the facts about the brides at the end. To perform the dance numbers and action sequences, cory Coryographer Michael kid wanted dancers to portray all six of Adam Pontepe's brothers. Kid said that he had to find a way to have these backwoods men dance without looking ridiculous. I have to base it all around activities you would accept From such people. It couldn't look like ballet and it could only have been done by superbly trained dancers.
Naomi:Oh no, we wanted the manly miss of pirouettes. I want you to serpentine right while snapping. But I what Donna Madonna like Madonna, madonna.
Jen:Okay, so I think these yeah, these are in order of birth. Adam, who wore the light green shirt, howard keel, a professional singer, appeared as the eldest of the seven brothers. He also appeared as Petruchio in the film version of kiss me Kate and appeared in leading roles in other musical films, including Rosemary and showboat.
Naomi:Oh, kiss me. Kate is amazing. We should watch that together sometime.
Jen:Benjamin orange shirt. And I have to say like, as far as attractiveness, i think Benjamin is probably what does it for me.
Naomi:I agree, no, adam, before he shaves.
Jen:Like the brawny sort of beard Yeah.
Naomi:I mean, if I'm gonna, i'm gonna shack up with somebody on in a flat and all they better have like an accompanying beard.
Jen:Okay, before we go any further, i've got to know like who is our brother, like who who's?
Naomi:who is, who is the if, if somebody like kidnapped you okay, okay, and I thought about this okay, i Really liked Gideon when I first watched it, like I thought he was the cute one, but I also always was assigned, like as a child, that like the youngest member of a group, so like Joey from new kids on the block or Johnny and which one's the youngest one, but like the youngest one generally, and so like I thought I had to like him. but watching it now I'm like, hmm, he looks like Gremlin, so Like fine, but he's got like this kind of like trickster Irish face. He could be a leprechaun They all could, but like him specifically a leprechaun and so I really do think it's Adam.
Jen:Who did the least amount of kidnapping, even though it was his idea.
Lydia:So All of my lines that I kept saying gross at in the watching are his yeah, that's that's the re, that's the real clincher of it.
Naomi:Like I have a feminist streak, that's I don't know if you've noticed, but it's there and the fact that, like the fact I have a playlist on my phone called boy shi, and it's specifically because every more often than I'd like to admit, i'm like mmm.
Lydia:Oh, go ahead and degrade me, yeah, like.
Naomi:What's wrong with me? like if I thought you meant it, i would be like all over you, but if you're just like Good little lady, it's so stupid, i know it's bad.
Jen:Yeah, he may have done the least amount of kidnapping, but he's still sort of the Charlie Manson of the group.
Naomi:And I get it. I'm so sorry.
Lydia:All right, lydia, uh like, for even when I was younger, it was always been for me Mm-hmm. Yeah, i don't, and he's the one who doesn't dance at all. Yeah.
Naomi:I didn't realize that.
Jen:Yeah, what?
Lydia:Okay, so Frankincense nice, that would have been my number two, yeah because his name is Frankincense. Okay, okay, so Lee, for solely for his name, but I don't know, is that the reason for you?
Jen:Oh well, he seemed to be the most, Most Potentially gay. Maybe, i don't know. You see, like when I mean he had overly defensive about his name.
Naomi:He's like why I ought to, and like when he raises his wrist to fight there a little flippity flabbity. Yeah a little swish swish on that so Where are we?
Jen:Benjamin? did we already say bent? No, we didn't say Benjamin. Yet Jeff Richards was a former professional baseball player who topped out at the triple a level of the minor leagues. Although obviously athletic, he is noticeably in the background seated or standing during the dance numbers So as to not expose his lesser dancing skills. Nice Caleb. Yellow shirt. Matt Maddox, a professional dancer, appeared on stage on Broadway and also danced in many Hollywood musical films. His Singing voice for the film was dubbed by a person named Bill Lee. Daniel in the mob shirt was played by Mark Platt. A professional dancer danced the role of Calmer's dream curly in the original 1943 Broadway production of Oklahoma. He also had a dancing and speaking role in the 55 version film version of Oklahoma. Ephraim, a dark green shirt is played by Jacques de Ambrose. A principal dancer with New York City Ballet, was given special leave for the filming of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. Although he was recalled before filming was completed, de Ambrose, his work as a dance teacher for children was featured in the documentary film He Makes Me Feel Like Dancing, which won an Academy Award and Tony Award. All right, two more Frank. In the red shirt Tommy Rall, a professional dancer and singer, appeared on stage on Broadway and in many musical films. His roles included Bill Calhoun in Lucentio, lucentio, lucentio in the film version of Kiss Me Kate. He appeared in the film Funny Girl as the prince who partnered Barbara Streisand in a parody of the ballet Swan Lake. And finally, gideon in the blue shirt was played by Russ Tamplin, was cast in the role of the youngest brother, and Tamplin showcased his gymnastics training throughout the action sequences. He also had a starring role in the musical West Side Story as Riff. As of 2021, following De Ambrose's death, tamplin is the last surviving actor to play a brother And they're all dead Kind of reminds me when your grandma Shirley will talk about her siblings.
Lydia:She's like. you know, i don't have any problems with any of my siblings anymore, because they're all dead.
Naomi:Sorry. I mean it does resolve a lot of conflict, You have to admit.
Jen:All right, i've got a few more bullets to even things out, to make sure I'm not talking and talking at the end here. So it was nominated for five Academy Awards, including Best Picture, and it won for Best Score. And as far as adaptations in the 1968 and 1970 TV series, here come the brides. It was inspired by the movie Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. The 1978 stage musical Seven Brides for Seven Brothers is an adaptation of the film, which only with only four songs from the film and the rest of the score consisted of new songs. The TV series Seven Brides for Seven Brothers How can you make a whole TV series on this, loosely based on the film, ran weekly on CBS from September 19th 82 to March 23rd 1983.
Lydia:So so your birthday.
Naomi:So as my mom reclined in her hospital room, bed like cuddling little infant Naomi.
Jen:Oh, let's see what's on CBS. This plays so much And there's a 1982 Bollywood film Sat Pai Satta Seven on Seven. It was a remake.
Naomi:I would kill to see this as a Bollywood musical. Yeah, agreed, all right.
Jen:I want to do like a bad racist accent about that?
Naomi:No, no, i'm not. But like, could you imagine, like like that really late, that that that dink and dink and dink noise that comes on like Into the Bollywood musical? How about?
Lydia:you just watch RRR. Okay, just how about you do that? I mean, i should.
Jen:When we come back from hiatus, i would come back for RRR. I mean it is like your three out is your pick. I love that movie.
Naomi:It's my pick Naomi, it's oh yeah yeah, yeah, My pick next in six months.
Jen:Yeah you had to see their moon.
Lydia:Yeah, so I will probably not do RRR. It's like over three hours You would never leave. No, maybe, maybe if I won the lotto, because then we wouldn't have to leave.
Naomi:Man, we should get on winning the lotto Yeah.
Lydia:Find a bag of money on the side of the road that just has a note that says Lydia, don't turn this into the police. Ooh, just like, funnel it into your bank account Claim. You have a business. Sorry, i'm putting all this information out there and now the FBI is going to be able to figure it out And I'm going to get arrested for fraud. Anyways, let's go to the movie.
Naomi:I can visit you.
Lydia:Oh, thank you.
Jen:Me too.
Lydia:Can't get no sleep when you sleep. Oh, that's what I'll do when I get a prison. I'll just like do musical numbers. I got a lot in my head.
Naomi:Have you seen that Catherine Tate show? What's it called? Jenny?
Jen:Oh, I don't remember what it's by.
Lydia:I think I know what you're talking about.
Naomi:She does all the characters.
Jen:Lock up or whatever. Oh man, i think it's called locked up, isn't it? No, maybe not, i don't know.
Naomi:But we're not here to talk about hilarious women doing bits right we're here to talk about The Oregon Territory in 1850. The head credits, i would like to note okay, so this is like Lions Kate, and then it's like Cinema Scope, and then we cut, and then, okay, we get titles. And I would just like it to be known that Johnny Mercer wrote the lyrics and that he needs to be held Accountable, even though he's probably dead now.
Jen:I'm sorry, i'm really, i'm, i'm. I'm being greeted by a wonder boy.
Naomi:How see like wiggling at you.
Jen:He's like right. He's like right on the pillow. He wants to climb up the pillow to see because he's because he likes you.
Lydia:If you all look over at Amos, you'll see his, his expression. Oh shit, do you guys not see?
Naomi:Tank brother is right there.
Jen:What if I just picked him up and turned him around, always kind of turning around himself?
Lydia:put him on the pillow a. Double dog, dare you was. He was getting on the pillow.
Jen:Yeah, yeah, he was on the pillow.
Lydia:Yeah, I don't. He doesn't really like soft things.
Naomi:Feel that way about my misogyny, don't be subtle with it.
Lydia:Well, we're gonna have some after we get through these opening credits.
Naomi:Oh, fantastic, but okay, remember Johnny Mercer. Okay we're mad at him. Oregon Territory 1850.
Lydia:Yeah, yeah, and my first note sexist shopping list.
Naomi:Okay, did you see the elevator eyes? He gave that first chick he came across.
Lydia:Yeah, I had went up and down, Which is hilarious because she was like half his size Yeah all of them are half his size.
Naomi:He's gigantic, norma.
Lydia:Yeah, he's like a redwood.
Naomi:Truly is the reddest head in the leatheriest fringy outfit I have. you have to admit, his beard is phenomenal, yeah but it's still like I don't know.
Lydia:I've seen better. I mean, it's not. It's not a bad beard but, I've seen better. I love a beard on a redhead Mm-hmm, it's very Nordic. Hmm, yeah me, i'm yum.
Naomi:Yeah me, i'm yum. Oh, plotters, if you hear a stop and pet a cat. That's what happens sometimes.
Jen:Yeah, howard Keel was six foot four.
Lydia:Yeah, he towered over all of us so it makes sense why he would be your brother, because he would.
Naomi:He's like Here's the problem, as you refer to them as my brother, because what we're saying is the dude, i'd want a snog, okay but when you say it's my brother, i think of Abraham, whom I love dearly, but I do not want to snog.
Lydia:Okay, so it makes sense why Adam would be the guy you want to snog. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's like four inches taller than you.
Naomi:Yeah, yeah, i don't think I've ever kissed anybody taller than me. Not like that.
Jen:Yeah, but I've like kissed you on a stair.
Lydia:Jen, for your birthday, i'll get you some platform boots.
Naomi:No, i like my police. Petite little little woman, i like that. You tiny. I'm the redwood to you. Jen is the Millie to your Adam. Yeah, okay, i'm a sexist piece of shit, and Jen is my petite tiny lady bird, yeah.
Lydia:So the, the guy that we're talking about right now. This is the one of the main characters name is Adam. He has friend, he's got this like super like, like like frontier outfit complete with like this leathery fringe that's just everywhere, and He goes into a store and he is trading in some stuff Like $60 worth of stuff that I don't really remember because it's little it's leather.
Naomi:It's leather or first.
Lydia:Yeah. and so he's like saying well, trade you for, you know, a plow and some lard, and you got a woman underneath that counter And I'm like I've come for a wife, yeah, oh, and also like there's like copious amounts of calling women females in this movie Yes oh.
Naomi:It's like no, no, we don't refer to that. Okay, and the reason of plotters, if you don't know? and we don't refer to women as females? because we are not scientifically Classing them and turning them into lesser creatures, right, which which is something that really disturbs me. When Watching like police shows, i'm like that's a woman. Mm-hmm, yeah, i was a female, a female, so you can shoot it and like document it, like put your data on it. No, i'm good, put it away for for more about Me renting out female anything's. Go to any of our other episodes.
Lydia:Mm-hmm.
Naomi:Yes, a frequent problem for me.
Lydia:And so he's like I'm going to find me a woman and She needs to be pretty fresh and young. Yeah, there's like four, four women who come into the store And he's like this, this is, this is this is this is what I did with my time on our second viewing. I made a list of things that make me say gross, and And the first thing is is the one where you wouldn't have a wife under that counter, would you? and I'm like no, gross, gross. The second thing, which is in this exact same scene, he specifically says you're all pretty fresh and young, and I'm like no, no, no.
Jen:No wives under here, but there is a prostitute doing something pretty nice to me. Sex worker honey. Yes.
Naomi:Yes.
Jen:I'm.
Lydia:Ted, are you feeling uncomfortable? No, because feel free to move wonder boy whenever you need.
Jen:Okay, i'll just turn him around anytime it comes near, but he certainly does seem to make his way back over here.
Lydia:He really likes you. He thinks you're pretty fresh.
Naomi:Yeah, the problem is not that he finds these women attractive. The problem is that he's like objectifying them and Minimizing their humanness. He is looking at a quantity, not a human.
Lydia:He's looking at women in relationship to himself Ie, he wants a woman who can be his wife instead of realizing that these women are autonomous creatures who are allowed to make a choice, because Something that they mentioned in the scene is that there are five women to there's five men to one woman. So he got a. Really. You got to really really work it. Basically, you got to work it be an attractive.
Naomi:Yeah, that's. That's the only reason I think he lands Millie is because he's hot like yeah. He certainly doesn't do anything worthy of like Elevator eyes in his direction, except for looking kind of good there.
Lydia:There are a couple of times where he does get a little like poetic.
Naomi:I mean we'll get there, we'll get there, we'll get there Yeah.
Lydia:Yeah, but my other note is this guy's Tinder profile will make me want to become a nun.
Naomi:He's holding a fish. He's like I'll go. Some fatties need not apply.
Lydia:No cross-eyed females, no so, while this musical number is going on, he's like talking about all the things that he doesn't want in a woman and He's starting to hit on him and they keep like Going away.
Naomi:Yeah, he hits on a man kid. At one point he turns to one girl is like you ever think about getting married? and Dude behind him is like on the other side of her is like, yeah, have you ever thought about getting married? I never thought you'd ask. He, like clock blocked himself. Pretty good, i said clock.
Jen:You did. I wasn't sure if you meant to say clock and we're gonna correct yourself. So I was prepping for you to correct yourself, but clock block works.
Naomi:There you go, that's for you. Okay. So he spies. Who will? we will come to know, is Millie chopping wood and she's doing the posture bad. She is like throwing herself over like chopping wood. Nobody in this movie knows how to chop wood at all.
Lydia:It's like they're not part of the Oregon territory in 1850.
Naomi:Her form is particularly bad and he's like Huppa-duh, Huppa-duh, Huppa-duh Oh.
Lydia:He finishes off. He finishes off the musical number by going inside to the, the saloon where Millie works as a cook. I think they call it the inn, but it is a restaurant bar situation as soon as he goes in, you hear one of those bling bling, bling, bling, bling, bling like little musical instruments where it's just one string Okay very red neck sounding.
Naomi:Yeah So well, they only could afford one string out there and it was hard to come by. You had to kill the cat yourself or whatever.
Lydia:Cat strings, that's a thing. Yeah, they would say cat intestines. So glad we live in the future.
Naomi:Okay. So he's all like the guys like What can I get for you's?
Lydia:like just a second, i gotta I should have something to eat first, cuz she's ladling out stew and She's ladling out to this whole Table full of guys and she's just like, like they're like talking about oh, you're gonna marry me, right, millie? She was just sort of like what would your wife say about that? Yeah, and then Adam sits down and as soon as Millie sees him, she like is ladling into a guy's lap.
Naomi:Yeah, yeah, she's like oh, I'm sorry, it's all right, millie. Yeah, it's like if someone's hot, they're allowed to hurt you and yeah, not get mad about it. Then he comes, he comes, she comes over to him and lays little, like very thoughtfully, into his bowl and he's like Smells good enough to eat and she's like tastes pretty good. I'm told Yeah, and then like she walks away. He takes a bite and he's like good, yeah. And then like she walks away but she's like looking back at him. I'm just looking like moon-eyed is a phrase that are should be in my notes more often than it is, because it's just over and over and over again Mm-hmm, and. And then we're that's, we're done with that scene. And then she's milk and a cow. My notes say milk.
Jen:Interrupting milking A cow is rude so I Want to make a small note on the whole like. For me It feels so surface for someone to fall for somebody over just their, their cooking ability, but that's pretty much how we landed each other.
Naomi:Yeah, Jen was planning on breaking up with me, but then I made her some spaghetti.
Lydia:Yeah, but you guys had known each other like for more than a day right, yeah. Yeah so there you go.
Jen:I made a comment on him approaching her while she was milking. Yeah, I.
Naomi:That's Amos going ew.
Jen:Saying you would make an utterly fantastic wife. Boo, sorry.
Naomi:I mean, if Sean would have left, he's probably laughing now.
Lydia:I mean I laughed. I thought that was a great pun.
Naomi:So he leans over this cow. He's just like look, here's how it would go down. I'd like say hi to you. In like six months I'd ask for you to go for a walk with me. I might touch your hand.
Lydia:Why don't we skip that and get married And she's all like he specifically says I got to go back up and plow for the, for the harvest, or like I got to plow the field for something And I'm not going to be back down here for 10 months, which is kind of like BS Cause later on, you know, millie comes down like a few times anyways, but he's like you're not going to make me wait that long, are you? And I was like, look, if I have to make a decision right now, i'm going to have to say no. Also, my note was uh, don't fall for an average looking man, millie, which you are allowed to hate me for that comment.
Naomi:I know he, he, he does do that to himself in about one scene. So don't don't feel bad.
Lydia:So I love the YouTube series. hell of a boss, and there's a character in there named Millie, and so my next note was she deserves a small musical loving imp, i think.
Naomi:I think of, um, I think of Millie and Moksy. Okay, So, uh, I love hell of a boss. I am an uh, I'm a Blitzow. Who, who, who made? who married to Stolis, but on more whimsical days, I think of us as Molly and Millie.
Lydia:Yeah, I, i, oh, my good, I always like to say Uh, on, uh. I like to say that on my good days I'm a Moksy, on my bad days I'm a Blitz.
Naomi:Yes, Uh, that's where. that's where we meet at our fellow Blitzness.
Jen:Yeah.
Naomi:Which again like an absurdly bad character. But he's so like I, so much like me in my head like, like the self-destructive tendencies. Yeah, he walks around and he's like, oh, f*** me, like that's me every day.
Lydia:So we were talking about, uh, a 1950s musical, a good Christian movie.
Naomi:It's what we're talking about right now, not talking about You're talking about satanic imps, horny satanic imps. Get it right.
Jen:Are you sure that's not this movie? Okay?
Naomi:All right. So she's like, sure, why not? And he walks into a barber shop where he promptly shaves off his beard, but not the mustache, but not the mustache, which I think would have been a mistake, but like it's still not great, he should have kept the beard. She liked you with the beard, imagine. I mean, i don't know, like I don't, i don't have an irrational feelings about this, but it is literally a thing for a dude to change his appearance without consulting his significant other first.
Lydia:And she is essentially is SO at this point.
Naomi:Yeah, They, they, they've just met. It is not a time for drastic changes like getting married on the day you meet someone.
Lydia:So what you're saying is this is when the science breaks down, for you.
Naomi:It really does Like if, if I was, if Jen and I were getting married again, and like, cause I dream about, about us renewing our vows, and like if I walked in and you had like a short bob without talking to me first, i would be Yeah And I know, that's a. That is a hypocrisy, because you've walked in and I've had like purple hair Right, like you're very chill about it, but I'd be like, and we weren't going to discuss, like, just terrible terrible.
Jen:Yeah, i keep reading articles that, like trans women, can appear more effeminate by having bangs And I'm like resist, don't do it.
Naomi:Resist, jen. No, you got straight enough hair for it. I don't want to still think it would suit. We can. We can pretend we can get a little clip and see if it would work.
Jen:No, that little face app that I have.
Naomi:Oh yeah, And it's not good.
Jen:I'm glad I have that app, because there's just so many things that I would try. I know what I would.
Naomi:Yeah, i walked, so you could run Sorry.
Lydia:Sorry, who are we talking about? musicals? the second tangent.
Jen:You thought I was mighty chauvinist. You thought I was mighty chauvinist before, but now I've shaved, so I'm obviously not that chauvinist pig anymore, because I've only got a mustache. But he's still in like a sweaty leather suit.
Naomi:He was just smelled so bad. But then they find the preacher who apparently was taking care of Millie after her parents died. She had like a tragic backstory. And then he's all like no. And then his daughter Alice is like oh, it's so romantic. And he's like, are you set on this? And she goes I am. And he's like all right, he goes. Actually he's all like, okay, i'm thoroughly against this marriage. All right. I'll perform the ceremony, do you?
Lydia:Yes, yes, And we have conveniently left out the brothers. Yes, and like it's first seen, adam's like oh, it's just me and my brothers up there at the cabin and be really good to have a wife who could cook and clean and do all those womeny things And again like gross. But he does not bring it up to Millie at all.
Naomi:And so they're doing a 12 mile journey, which has got to be like in today's horse miles 12 hours.
Lydia:I mean it's probably like like the better part of three miles, 12 miles Yeah. So like if you think a horse is like four times as fast, so maybe it's like three hours.
Naomi:Yeah, yeah, probably, i don't know. My maps app doesn't do horse miles.
Lydia:I think, i think, uh, what is it like? a horse and cart? and DND is, like you know, five times faster than if you're walking by by foot.
Jen:It's not really roads either.
Lydia:Right, so they can't go super fast.
Naomi:And they have to go through a pass, so they're obviously gaining a lot of elevation, we assume, Man, I kind of get up to where that snow is. But she's waxing on.
Lydia:She's like uh, after the, after they get married, they head on up to his cabin and she's like I was thinking about.
Naomi:It might be awfully lonely, not working at the end anymore, but I could stand to be a little lonely.
Lydia:Yeah, There's. I'm not going to have to cook and clean for all those men.
Naomi:That's such a good thing. And then she sings about how much she doesn't want to be with all those people and how in love because it's been up two hours, i guess, and like she's, like I can't, even I can't fake the song sounds when I'm not actually watching it, if it's really, or The hills are a blive with the fact that I'm with only one man here, only one dude I have to put up with.
Lydia:And like the what's interesting is before this musical number. like Adam is like, uh, yeah, i might need to go ahead and kind of clarify some things And he leans in to tell her, while she's picking her wedding bouquet of, of herb she's going to make soup with.
Naomi:I don't know, i don't know. No, it's not that, that's tiny flowers, tiny flower stems. Demons, demons, staples, staples, demons. Sean, yell it to me on the factory floor. Okay, so um, they'll be, they'll be, they'll be, they're called statements Okay, um, so he, he falls back and he just can't tell her, for whatever reason. So let's pull into the farm.
Lydia:Yep And uh, as, as she gets down, she's looking around and is like, Oh, this looks really nice. And then, lo and behold, there is a brother right behind her. She's like, Oh, okay.
Naomi:Okay, this is where my notes go. She's so, and.
Lydia:And then, as you say, yeah, i like, like after after the introduction of all of these brothers showing up, i would have been like I think I'm going to brave the wilderness rather than stay.
Naomi:Yeah, He starts bringing out all of these red heads and I'm like that's too many red heads. And you like red heads?
Lydia:for a parent, yeah, yeah, and so, uh, like, the introduction to the brothers is very much like these are all of their names and they're all Bible names, and and then there's there's Frank, and she's like I don't remember a Frank in the Bible, is like, oh well, that was because he was called frank and says, cause it smelled so sweet and he's real sensitive about his name.
Naomi:So he starts fighting And, yeah, they all start brawling around her as Adam introduces her to her life of drudgery. He's not like. She's like Oh, it's really big and messy. And he's like, yeah, but now that you're here and my notes go.
Jen:Thanks, a plotter, for joining us for part one of our review of 1954's musical classic seven brides for seven brothers. We've still got two parts left and we've definitely got a lot more to discuss in our plot walkthrough, sean facts and, of course, our shocked and applaudable moments. Hey, this is your audio engineer and bride of a bride, jen. As you've heard, we're taking a break for a while after this month's episode. If you're an official, a plotter on Patreon, we'll be sending you some additional details shortly with a thank you for all of the support you've given us over the nearly five years of this show. We've made our time together such a wonderful adventure. We'll return next week for part two of our review of this fifties musical comedy From shocked and applaud. thank you for patroning the peculiar.